I've also been searching to no avail for the static weight limitation for the Ascent when attaching a Yakima LocknLoad directly to the side rails with the Yakima Timberline system. For most roof top tents, there’s a straight forward roof rack combination that will work for your vehicle. If you’ve driven the same 4WD with a decent amount of weight up top and then removed it all, you will see it very clearly in the corners and general driving, even in the city. Steel that has been poorly painted will rust, and that ends up on the panels of your vehicle. For some heavier tents – … It’s important to have plenty of places to attach ratchet and occy straps. I wasn’t expecting to have so much issue due to the unusual model. We’ve been seriously considering a roof top tent, however upon reading your article I checked the roof load capacity in the owner’s manual and it says 50kg. The rating given by the vehicle manufacturer is a dynamic rating, which means its meant for when you are bouncing around on a 4WD track. Did you know the roof on your 4WD has a weight limit? I’ve lost count of the number of badly overloaded roof’s that I’ve seen while travelling around WA. If you, like myself, have a a family and a few kids running around, I’m sure you’ll agree that going on extended trips and weekend camp outs are way different compared to when you’re traveling solo or with your mates. In the manual it says roof load capacity 80kg – is it possible to install descent roof racks and have a tent loaded up? We installed a Powerful 4×4 full length steel cage roof rack on a mates Patrol a few years back, and weighed it at at around 60kg. One of the better designs I’ve seen is to have a length of flat bar running down the inside of your gutters. Perhaps you, your partner and the roof top tent weigh 210kg, but your vehicle is only rated to 100kg. Each rack will generally come with a static and dynamic load rating. Our stock mounting hardware will fit rack bars with a cross-section of 3.25" width x 1.5" height. 2. Noticed the paint bubbling up around the front pads, so pulled the racks. I’ll let you know what they say. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. Major rust under there. 0 It looks like the MOPAR rack is a cutter mount? Most 4WD’s can do up to 100kg, with a few at 150kg and very few higher. seen numerous online of the same model and with a tent but cant get to the bottom of an answer. Remember that the load capacity includes everything on the roof; gear plus any racks etc you mount up there. What does the manufacturer say you can carry? But still doesn’t mention static load capacity. Can I mount your roof rack recommendations from your Buyer's Guide on a car with a panoramic roof? Supported by www.collegehillshonda.com. If you want to know what your 4WD is designed to carry, have a look in your owners manual or contact your vehicle manufacturer. I’m not really sure, asides from Outback Joe’s post as to how you calculate the difference, but it would be a lot, Interested in your comment “… and very few at 200kg (the new 200 Series Land Cruiser for example)”. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. When you start thinking about roof top tents, one of the first questions that arises is whether or not the roof of your car can support it. The roof will take this all day, every day, providing you are within the rated capacities. Thanks. To check if a roof-top tent will work on your vehicle, look up the following information: Total tent weight: That should be in the tent's product specs. You can pretty clearly see evidence of this based on the way a roof rack is mounted to the vehicle, how the weight is distributed and how well its clamped down. My Prado already has a roof railing but not the bars, do you think I should just get a normal roof bars or that wouldn’t support 65 kg dynamic and around 210 kg static? Yours. Whether its just strong mesh, or little hooks in convenient locations, its worth paying attention to. Now when it comes to roof top tents the load rating you need to be aware of is both. Also, do we know if a longer rack can be mounted with cutter mounts in the front panels? So, I’ve just bought a triton and I’m going to put a canopy and roof rack on it, was going to chuck the roof rack on the canopy as it can take a heavier load than the 80kg roof of the vehicle, BUT I’ve read a couple things lately that have stated it doesn’t matter if your canopy roof can hold 200kg, if the vehicle is only rated to hold a max 80kg then this means you can only hold 80kg whether its on the roof or the canopy roof, because, it’s not just about weight it’s also about raising the car’s centre of gravity and more weight above the height of the roof/s = greater dynamic weight and swaying and increases rollover likelyhood ect….. any thoughts or your understanding? Even the light roof top tents are about 65kg. There are 32 ways to make your 4WD illegal, and overloading the roof racks is one of them! The static weight limit -when parked-can be higher than the dynamic weight. Hit a good speed bump or such and your load momentarily increases substantially over the 100# limit. This is because, in a static load, the force of the load on the platform remains constant. Our 80 series racks are within 60mm, and the closer the better (except it is almost impossible to wash the roof!). Rhino-Rack Roof Rack 5th Gen 4Runner – CXB & SX Leg Kit + Backbone System. A Everest is not a LC 200, not by a long shot. Next time you are bouncing your way along a tough 4WD track, spare a thought for how your roof and the roof rack feels! Our maximum static weight rating is 600 lbs. If you have a vehicle that is heavily loaded on the rear, consider having the roof racks further forward. So long as you are within the roof rack weight limit and vehicle manufacturers specifications, you won’t have an issue. Roof Racks vs Weight. That same Patrol had the steel rack removed not long ago, and replaced with a top quality Tracklander aluminium one that weighed under 1/3 of the steel one. However, you’ll see that the better quality racks clamp down extremely well; they are intended to carry the weight safely both on and off road. A distinction must be made between dynamic and static load capacity. Something that is often overlooked is the weight of your roof rack itself. What is the load capacity of my Thule roof rack? What is the load rating and weight limit of your roof rack? Dynamic vs Static Loads Dynamic is when you are driving your vehicle and there is motion . 141 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<136EDDA8A7B2CD42B6438EDDB7A9C4B6>]/Index[128 23]/Info 127 0 R/Length 75/Prev 221511/Root 129 0 R/Size 151/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream The ladder itself has a weight capacity of 320 lbs. https://www.4wdingaustralia.com/4x4/roof-racks-are-you-overloaded Seat Covers; are you looking after your 4WD’s interior? That is absolutely ridiculous in so many ways. A roof rack obviously helps spread the weight across the car’s frame, as opposed to directly on the roof, but it doesn’t mean you can carry more stuff when the car is in motion. Not sure if you got the Rooftop tent issue sorted, but basically the amount of weight a proper roof-rack set-up can handle (as in maximum stationery loading) is 4 times its mobile loading. Beyond that, you have a ‘moral’ responsibility to drive a legal vehicle. Another doubt is about how much of weight can the roof rack sustain when stationary? I’d be very surprised if you had an issue with 200kg on the roof while stationary, but it would pay to check with Mitsubishi to see what they think. The dynamic load capacity tells you how much your car can carry when transporting equipment on the roof. If you’re using a roof rack or cargo carrier, you need to subtract its weight from your total rating. Your insurance company has every right to say ‘sorry mate, you were overloaded’. What do you think? thoughts? Also, if you’ve got any tips or questions, leave a comment below! Thanks for the wonderfully useful article. There is a lengthy but complete discussion of the dynamic weight rating vs static weight rating of your car or truck’s roof rack here: Roof Loading and Roof Top Tents. Give Mitsubishi a call to confirm, but if its like most 4WD’s you can easily mount a roof top tent and have two adults in it, as long as you aren’t driving around! Not only is it putting your vehicle and passengers at risk, it can void your insurance and cause serious problems in the event of an accident, or even be the cause of an accident in the first place. The more weight you have up high, the higher your center of gravity, and the worse the vehicle will handle. This is the maximum amount of weight you can apply to the roof of your 4WD, and includes both the roof rack itself and anything on the roof rack. So if your rack can handle a load, when driving, of 75kg, then it can handle 300kg when stationery. Gobi Rack has this design and, from what I can tell, was very popular. The load ratings of 220lbs and 165lbs that the website references is for dynamic weight. Unfortunately models that aren’t common run into all sorts of weird and wonderful issues like this, but I’m sure you’ll come to a resolution soon. Whether you're planning your next overlanding trip or just need a solid rack system for your weekend gear, we've got options for your 2007-2017 Jeep Wrangler 2 Door with the Factory Hard Top or Soft Top. Holden should be able to give you an answer, and if they don’t, I would assume 100kg. i’v currently got an Outlander with roof rails and am looking to install a rooftop tent. Is it really worth the risk? What is the load capacity of my Thule roof rack? (plus body weight obviously?) Suggestions? When static, the load remains constant and doesn't change over time. Really need to work this out before I buy. Anything you can do to reduce the weight on your 4WD will benefit you. I would strongly advise not putting that much weight up there as it will hugely affect the handling and safety. Go over it though, and expect to see damage in time to the roof of your vehicle and the roof racks. 165 lbs limit - 40.2 lbs rack & accessories = 124.8 lbs available load capacity. Data from the Rhino Rack site. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Perhaps it’s harkening back to childhood and a love of treehouses—or deeper in our psyches, when … mynameistory, Feb 13, 2020 #22. It represents the maximum permissible load that the rack / brackets can withstand when repeatedly in motion over a long period of time. Be sure again, to check the on road and off road weight ratings, and stick within them! What are you planning on putting on the roof rack? 1. endstream endobj 129 0 obj <>/Metadata 18 0 R/Outlines 35 0 R/PageLayout/OneColumn/Pages 126 0 R/StructTreeRoot 48 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 130 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/Tabs/S/Type/Page>> endobj 131 0 obj <>stream I have a Prado 150 – 2012 and I’m planing to buy a roof top tent weigh about 65kg. Right? The dynamic load for the bars should not exceed 165lbs. I guess it boils down to the weight limit of the 4runner being only 165 lbs (dynamic). Suggestions? Thanks a lot for sharing! Now when it comes to roof top tents the load rating you need to be aware of is both. Eventually something has to break! Actually, the warning sticker on a Front Runner RR states explicitly to stick the the vehicle manufacturers rule. Assuming 50kg capacity is the dynamic, that means that even at a 100 kg static I still can’t put me 85 kg and my wife 50kg + the tent 65kg on top of the car. Using that set-up, it is still under the 165lbs dynamic weight limit. Where do you draw the line with 4WD accessories. I checked the car’s actual manual and it actually says 80 KG. Does this rack fit a 2016 4x4 high roof sprinter with the 140" wheelbase with an A/C on top? The manufacturer of the roof rack will give a load rating, when installed as per their instructions. A 04/06/2020, 1:46:00 PM Toyota rates the 4Runner roof with a factory rack at "Max load 165 lbs evenly distributed." Weight on a roof rack makes a vehicle handle poorly, more likely to roll over, and reduces its fuel economy. Either way, lots of weight up top isn’t a good thing. Can I re-use my older roof rack setups? KSJ08, nimby and Prime2357 like this. thoughts? It’s almost impossible, and your roof cops it way worse than that. The 80kg will be a dynamic roof loading – when the vehicle isn’t moving you will be able to add more weight than that. If you are just climbing up and down and sleeping in the tent you won’t have an issue, unless you are well over double the dynamic rating. There are two things you need to consider when looking at the amount of weight on your roof racks. Can you please expand on this. Hi wondering about adding extra bars. Just looking at fitting my 4WD with a roof tent, thanks for the explanations, it is helpful. A rack’s load rating is a measurement of its weight capacity; thus, racks with higher load ratings will be able to handle heavier loads. If you have more weight on the roof than what your vehicle manufacturer has set, your vehicle is not roadworthy and the insurance company has a valid reason to deny or reduce your claim. mynameistory, Feb 13, 2020 #22. Does this increase the load carrying capacity of the roof rack? Consider how much extra force 80kg of weight bouncing up and down would apply to the roof. Is Toyota saying that 120lbs is all that the roof can carry, OR are they saying that's all Toyotas crossrails will carry, OR i've heard the theory that that is dynamic load limit for when the vehicle is moving but that when its static (stationary) the roof can hold much more. A few are 150kg and I believe the 200’s are 200kg. I’m surprised the limit is that low. When considering a canopy for your 4WD, weight distribution is one of the most important things you should be thinking about. So for example, a Hilux has a dynamic load limit of around 68kg (static load roughly 680kg), and therefore you can have your wife and 2 fat kids up there in your rooftop tent at night with you quite comfortably. When the roof begins to buckle, subtract 10 pounds. For example, a pallet rated for a dynamic load of 2000 lbs means you can put up to 2000 lbs. ... Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. The intention is to tour Australia and do a bit of light off-roading where possible. 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